I always felt that legalizing marijuana was a slippery slope. I've indulged in the past when it was romantic ideology. Cool. Revolutionary. I guess I bought into that, but I grew up. Now with a family of my own and responsible, and as a taxpayer, I think I've changed my mind. In Maine the chinese are buying up land properties to operate grow houses. They use the energy infrastructure in Maine to fuel their efforts. Nearly all of the production goes to the black market. They avoid state sales tax. They produce hybrids that are really strong and hurt tender minds. And of course the violence follows. The local code enforcement officer remarked to me that psychotic episodes and accidents and fatalities due to driving under the influence have increased since the change in laws in the state. Of course, correlation does not prove causality, but we all know this truth as self-evident. If Soros is indeed a factor, correlation does not prove causality, then it's just one more item on Saint Pete's list upon which to judge the man. See @themainewire on X.
Pretty much every point you make was evoked during alcohol prohibition, I'll try and clarify. The Chinese are principally the same as the Mob, and that is where law enforcement should concentrate their efforts, in breaking the back of any forceful or fraudulent behavior if they are a threat, you don't fix that by throwing your own citizens in a cage for using a plant.
If they're using the power structure, are they stealing it? If they pay the rates, why does it matter to you? And if they sell on the unregulated market, that only means the state-run 'dispensaries' (if you have them) are overcharging, have bad product or have a rotten business model. Here in Oregon, one can only buy with a card, meaning that person is tracked and so when ding-dongs such as the author get their way, this has them on a list - forever. The same logic applies against CBDC's.
You say they avoid state taxes? Oh my, got any tips on how that's done?
Ah yes, the predictable violence trope. Blame the inanimate object just like the 'gun violence', this is hogwash. Culture, godlessness, poor policing and many other societal breakdowns cause this, you can't blame the plant any more than you can blame the gun.
And accidents and freak-outs from intoxication will happen once a substance is reintroduced, but that will subside and still not a valid argument for the imposition of a ban.
Regarding the Soros boogieman, maybe he is, or maybe the Obama's or Musk, after all, he did hit a blunt on a live podcast, so no. People just want to breathe free and despite the fevered dreams of the author, there is no grand conspiracy, this article is just click-bait with his lame argument and even lamer reply to me.
I appreciate the libertarian perspective. I also agree that the user should be allow to use the drug of choice. A user was allowed six plants, then it wasn't until the state got involved the things started going awry. The state issues cards here too. $40 to a certified state "record keeper". Also, each homerule town can set its limits on the number of retailers within its domain. But some towns elect to permit a couple some decide on many. In some towns they're as prolific as fuel stations. As a result prices collapsed. Gee go figure. The Chinese aspect is still worrisome. There are now over unlicensed 200 grow houses feeding the beast. The state doesn't seem to be doing much to slow this down. Corruption?
Thank you for actually understanding our point, w nor! We are not pro-decriminalization of marijuana, but do not believe it should be taxed and sold like any other product (which it now essentially is). Like you said, things were fine before the state got involved--anyone who wanted it could get it.
I thank you for the polite reply. First of all I'm shocked SHOCKED there is corruption going on! And like most corruption on that scale, it is well organized. Can you imagine how other countries react when our CIA starts color revolutions on THEIR soil? So if it is China, Russia,or Lichtenstein, it matters not. The stubborn fact remains that were talking pot, a highly beneficial plant the government has no moral reason to prevent others from utilizing. Even in states that "legalized" it, they placed heavy obstacles and taxes at every turn. Get rid of the onerous regulations and the incentive for corruption evaporates.
The amount of amazing therapeutics that have been derived since the quasi-legalization has caught most by surprise. An 80+ year-old woman I know as a client had not been able to sleep in any meaningful way for over a decade due to awful pain. Thanks to CBD edibles, the non-psychoactive part of cannabis, her life will likely be extended for another 10 or more years. She sleeps great. We never would have discovered this but for just the partial relief.
Whenever there is an unjust law, such as cannabis prohibition, this goes against human nature and will be opposed, as it should be. One even has an obligation to defy it. One can make a case for regulating to a reasonable extent, and I mean very reasonable, but the author wants to put the toothpaste back in the tube and actually criminalize it!
The Soros issue is baffling, I mean the guy must have super-human powers the way he has been accused of every policy disliked by a certain party. Maybe it's all true, I don't know, but the ill effects of prohibition are far worse.
WoW.... The way you manipulate data and cite NIH, as a legitimate source is frightening a least!!! Let me ask you several questions which you obviously have not considered. First, Please explain to the audience how a law is created. Specifically as it relates to slang terms! Our laws are supposed to be made by dictionary or encyclopedia terms. Please provide me with the dictionary or encyclopedia In 1937 that lists the term "Marijuana" In my research it does NOT exist. So a law based on a slang term is NOT law. What did Thomas Jefferson say about unjust laws? Which leads to the question who's laws are you following, Man's laws or God's laws??? Genesis 1: 26-29 where God explains what our food is, "All seed bearing plants and fruit with a seed in the center I provide you for FOOD!!! Taking food and calling it a drug to increase a Criminal Justice budget is a criminal act!!! Which speaks nothing to the state of Codes and Statutes as corporation by laws and not law, or Color of Law, thus Title 18: 241 & 242.
Second, Cannabis, the Latin definition of the plant's term (marijuana is a lie and always will be) was listed in the phamacopia until 1949. Well after the 1937 Marijuana Tax Stamp Act. Please also provide your readers the process used to make a law out of a slang term. Please list all of the Banker families, involved and their government positions. You see I have conducted extensive research into Cannabis and the illegal way it was made Illegal. In the late 1930's to early 1940's an elixir of cannabis was in most of the pharmaceutical medicines in the pharmacies, or general store that had pharmacies. Please read my Substack on Cannabis.
Cannabis is treated like no other substance by the Government. Due to it's Class 1 status as a controlled substance. The Government severely restricts it's use for research. You can only research its harms. Research looking at its medicinal qualities are not "Funded" meaning you cannot obtain cannabis for research. They only allow research on possible harms. So all the research studies in the U.S. are swayed to harm. If you look to the work of Raphael Mechoulam out of Israel his research is the most complete on benefits of cannabis. He is the one who isolated the psychoactive component of Delta9 Tetrahydrocannabinol. He also named the compound our bodies make that is the cannabinoid receptor as anandamide which in Israel means Bliss.
Our bodies have an endocannabinoid system that controls all life support systems of the body and every organ of the body has cannabinoid receptors. Cannabis is the one plant with hundreds of cannabinoids, Echinacea has 2. God created our human bodies, God also created the most beneficial plant for the human body, it's called Cannabis Sativa, Indica, and Ruderalis. We can agree on one thing, cannabis should never have been made legal!!! It should remain Lawful as it's Food first, Medicine second, and a recreational substance third. Only the manipulation of God's plant by government created by man would eliminate the most beneficial plant to humans. I could go on for quite an extended time rebuffing your incorrect post. But I will stop here My diatribe has gone too long already... Please prove me wrong with independent studies from independent financial elements that don't cow down to the Government's propaganda... Peace...
All drugs should be legal for adults to consume if they choose. I would like to see a real accounting of the cost to society of the war on drugs. But I rarely hear about that. I daresay that it far outweighs any negative effects of drug use. Prohibition NEVER works. If people want it they are going to find a way to get it. How did that work out with alcohol? Let’s just face that reality and stop destroying lives over something that should be a personal choice. For some reason people just can’t deal with this.
Do a thought experiment. Sometimes looking at an extreme case can clarify the situation.
What would happen if everybody used mj regularly? I mean everybody from SCOTUS, to your doctor, to the guy driving in front of you on the highway. And then there is the pilot of your flight to Hawaii, the whole National Security apparatus and the military. And the farmers, dairymen etc. If everybody just lays back and takes it as easy as they can, who do we mooch from?
Hi Lizzie that would be a disaster. How does that address the issue at hand? The war against drugs has hurt more people than drugs have. Who can prove that prohibition is better for society than freedom? You can’t because all the data is skewed by prohibition. How much money is spent fighting drug use? How many people are in prison? How many lives lost to violence? Yet people are still getting drugs. Maybe the answer is to just kill more people and put more people in jail. Yeh that will do it. Problem solved.
If everybody uses, society devolves and dies quickly; with strong prohibition, it dies more slowly. The slower option is better because it gives time for people to adapt, either genetically or behaviorally. Perhaps the best choice is for government to make organized efforts to spread the practice,less profitable and not approve or license use or distribution. Eventually, as use spreads and causes even more damage, the "responsible" people who keep society running, will lose patience at having to help support those who are not functioning at the capacity they were born with. Then things could get really ugly. Devolution on steroids, or on meth if that is a better metaphor.
This is something that has been eating at me for a while and this article was a convenient segue for my rant. I don’t think the status quo is very good. I am one who believes adults should make their own decisions and where the government should step in is really a gray area. I appreciate the author giving me an audience. And thank you Lizzie for sharing your thoughts.
I’m back. San Francisco is pretty messed up. Your point is valid about the cost to society in general. There is certainly a lot of data that people use to support prohibition. And Soros is a nasty character who seems to be responsible for a lot of destructive policies. Here is the situation, people want to take drugs. We can let them and incur some costs or we can “try” to stop them and incur some costs. I say that if you did a true cost benefit analysis on prohibition of drugs you might find that the damage to society of “trying “ to stop people from taking drugs is greater than the damage that would come from legalization and regulation just like alcohol. The war on drugs waged by the United States has caused a lot of harm to society. We aren’t winning it and we never will, never.
If Soros planned to ruin this country, promoting drugs and promoting freeing criminals to repeat their offences he could not have come up with a better plan. Oh! WAIT ! ........
I try to avoid conspiratorial thinking... but it's hard to evade the realization that our system is set up to:
(1) make people's lives empty
(2) offer salves and distractions to help with the empty feeling (for profit)
(3) offer MORE programs and apps and subscriptions and products to address the low self-esteem and health problems created by overuse of 2, such as obesity and low T and depression, etc. (for more profit) and
(4) lock people into a dependent relationship with experts and government programs and social transfer payments
I'm not saying this is all a concerted effort. It's partly just the incentives playing out as you'd expect in a country dedicated to personal fulfillment and littered with bureaucracies and corporations trying to survive and grow.
Someone please tell me why George Soros is not behind bars for crimes against America. Start with all the riots he bussed people to, including Jan.6th. His henchmen started that. The only Trump supporters who were still there were the radicals looking for a fight. I have friends who went. By the time the rioting started the contingent from Kentucky were all safely in home in their beds. Most of them have jobs and needed to get back to them. It was busloads of people who were paid rioters who led the charge on the Capitol Building and FBI members who were imbedded in the crowd new that.
We've actually heard the same thing from multiple sources, firsthand. What frustrates me about the reaction from others (not you, Rebecka) is that, even if you personally LOVE Cannabis, is it not distressing to know you've been manipulated? Thank you for reading as always, Rebecka!
I hate when I learn people have been manipulated and lied to by the people who are suppose to be looking out for them. I do not understand how people like George Soros can wield so much power over our government. The people beholden to him are just foot soldiers. They don't even realize they can be replaced.
Driving in California has gotten far worse since cannabis was legalized. Bad enough that we have so many idiots on the road as it is, now half of them are stoned. They brake for green lights and merge into freeways going 25 mph. I have a friend who’s young adult son smokes pot daily to “relax” and to help him sleep. What does a 22-year-old have to worry about so much that he needs to smoke daily? I can see in a few years how much more aggressive his personality has become, but she’s oblivious.
The only people against drugs either never did them, did them badly, or profit from the prison/police industrial complex, and this recent zeal for cannabis prohibition has the GOP/neocons fingerprints all over it. Come to think of it, perhaps you got your marching orders from the Dems who want to derail this administration? Otherwise, why spend political capital on this? Or perhaps you these war criminals need to keep the young folks agitated for the next big conflict with China, you can't have them chill.
I can't believe this has to be explained again. The costs to our society and loss of human potential from prohibition are staggering, but you brought "statistics", so I guess that makes the destruction of all our civil liberties okay. Don't bring up the fact that all tyranny has been justified in the name of "safety".
It's not surprising how this propaganda piece doesn't mention the massive costs of enforcement and incarceration, but you does consider what happens to "productivity" as a reason for running a police state. This is an attempt to quantify freedom as a cost benefit/liability tradeoff. No thanks, I'll trade a bit of laziness over no-knock raids.
I'm "paranoid" said the person blaming the little Jewish man. Okay, you be you, but I've said a truth that you can't refute. I've lived through all of this, from Nixon's 'War on Drugs' (yes, he started it) to Reagan's renewed vigor in cracking heads and here are with the same imbecilic words being thrown around again. You turn my stomach by your ignorance, I'm in Oregon in the heart of it all, I've lived through it all. You, Sir, are dead wrong.
🤣Oregon? That explains a lot. How’d Measure 110 work out for you folks in Oregon then? Huh? I’ll tell you. A 241% increase in accidental opiate deaths in three years since it was passed. You sir, are an idiot.
By "opiate" did you mean the Frankenstein poisons? In that case we have a problem. These are being consumed because some people, as has always been the case, will want to get 'high' or persons in serious pain will try the stuff out of desperation due to the difficulty or impossibility in accessing legitimate pain management. The system put in place may have worked great if the resources from the sale of cannabis were used for treatment as it was supposed to, but our corrupt government didn't do that, of course, and instead diverted the funds to other trash.
Oh, and thanks for the ad hominem attack, what a class act. Funny, you seem angry, I bet you are fun to live with. Maybe you need to chill with the hippy lettuce? Have a terrific day.
You’re argument makes no sense. So we are to upend society with legalization of marijuana in order to facilitate the less-than-minuscule margin of people who live with chronic pain who can’t obtain legal pain
meds? You crusaders for the marginalized people keep forgetting the rule man…majority rules. Have a baked day!
Hehe, that was funny, "Have a baked day!" because I'm not a consumer of such, don't even drink, but I do love freedom and your anti-liberty intrusion into this thread I resolutely oppose. Besides, don't you think that was much better than your previous personal attack?
Well, boss, I don't have all day to wrangle over this issue, but there is merit to your words "majority rules", which, by definition, is the worst form of tyranny meaning it's too bad if a "tiny minority", as you wrongly infer, is to be crushed, got to break a few eggs. You know, I'm getting the distinct impression that you love big state power, so there is no point in trying to convince you that big government is evil. Please enjoy your prison.
I know, tragic as it is, see rule #2 - they did them wrong, they abused or over used whatever substance that is at hand. The same logic can be applied equally for tobacco, alcohol, guns, motor vehicles, and even books. How many times through history has the establishment banned books because it can corrupt the minds of the weak?
We can not create a risk-free society without devolving into a police state. If, as the author suggests, it is due to the influence of some little man with a lot of money, then the footing of the nation was on shaky ground to begin with. The problem is a moral and spiritual one and the reason people use escape mechanisms is due to their lack of moral and spiritual discipline.
If there is a strong correlation to be made between drug abuse and the influence of outside interests such as Soros, then that happened long before he came around as the latest scapegoat for what ails us. The Vietnam war was the tipping point due to the excesses of the war machine being exposed. An immoral and illegitimate government combined with the Kennedy assassination broke the spirit of America and it has been sliding backwards ever since. We can't blame substances, we need to blame ourselves.
More people need to talk about this. How on earth does no one know that Soros basically made our society do a 180 on this within a decade?
If you find this interesting, check out our other pieces on Soros’s machinations!
https://open.substack.com/pub/thewholetruthpublications/p/the-american-oligarchy?r=4dg1kb&utm_medium=ios
https://open.substack.com/pub/thewholetruthpublications/p/millionaires-tug-of-war-for-the-taxpayer?r=4dg1kb&utm_medium=ios
Why is Soros still a free man? Is there no way to stop him?
I always felt that legalizing marijuana was a slippery slope. I've indulged in the past when it was romantic ideology. Cool. Revolutionary. I guess I bought into that, but I grew up. Now with a family of my own and responsible, and as a taxpayer, I think I've changed my mind. In Maine the chinese are buying up land properties to operate grow houses. They use the energy infrastructure in Maine to fuel their efforts. Nearly all of the production goes to the black market. They avoid state sales tax. They produce hybrids that are really strong and hurt tender minds. And of course the violence follows. The local code enforcement officer remarked to me that psychotic episodes and accidents and fatalities due to driving under the influence have increased since the change in laws in the state. Of course, correlation does not prove causality, but we all know this truth as self-evident. If Soros is indeed a factor, correlation does not prove causality, then it's just one more item on Saint Pete's list upon which to judge the man. See @themainewire on X.
Pretty much every point you make was evoked during alcohol prohibition, I'll try and clarify. The Chinese are principally the same as the Mob, and that is where law enforcement should concentrate their efforts, in breaking the back of any forceful or fraudulent behavior if they are a threat, you don't fix that by throwing your own citizens in a cage for using a plant.
If they're using the power structure, are they stealing it? If they pay the rates, why does it matter to you? And if they sell on the unregulated market, that only means the state-run 'dispensaries' (if you have them) are overcharging, have bad product or have a rotten business model. Here in Oregon, one can only buy with a card, meaning that person is tracked and so when ding-dongs such as the author get their way, this has them on a list - forever. The same logic applies against CBDC's.
You say they avoid state taxes? Oh my, got any tips on how that's done?
Ah yes, the predictable violence trope. Blame the inanimate object just like the 'gun violence', this is hogwash. Culture, godlessness, poor policing and many other societal breakdowns cause this, you can't blame the plant any more than you can blame the gun.
And accidents and freak-outs from intoxication will happen once a substance is reintroduced, but that will subside and still not a valid argument for the imposition of a ban.
Regarding the Soros boogieman, maybe he is, or maybe the Obama's or Musk, after all, he did hit a blunt on a live podcast, so no. People just want to breathe free and despite the fevered dreams of the author, there is no grand conspiracy, this article is just click-bait with his lame argument and even lamer reply to me.
I appreciate the libertarian perspective. I also agree that the user should be allow to use the drug of choice. A user was allowed six plants, then it wasn't until the state got involved the things started going awry. The state issues cards here too. $40 to a certified state "record keeper". Also, each homerule town can set its limits on the number of retailers within its domain. But some towns elect to permit a couple some decide on many. In some towns they're as prolific as fuel stations. As a result prices collapsed. Gee go figure. The Chinese aspect is still worrisome. There are now over unlicensed 200 grow houses feeding the beast. The state doesn't seem to be doing much to slow this down. Corruption?
Thank you for actually understanding our point, w nor! We are not pro-decriminalization of marijuana, but do not believe it should be taxed and sold like any other product (which it now essentially is). Like you said, things were fine before the state got involved--anyone who wanted it could get it.
I thank you for the polite reply. First of all I'm shocked SHOCKED there is corruption going on! And like most corruption on that scale, it is well organized. Can you imagine how other countries react when our CIA starts color revolutions on THEIR soil? So if it is China, Russia,or Lichtenstein, it matters not. The stubborn fact remains that were talking pot, a highly beneficial plant the government has no moral reason to prevent others from utilizing. Even in states that "legalized" it, they placed heavy obstacles and taxes at every turn. Get rid of the onerous regulations and the incentive for corruption evaporates.
The amount of amazing therapeutics that have been derived since the quasi-legalization has caught most by surprise. An 80+ year-old woman I know as a client had not been able to sleep in any meaningful way for over a decade due to awful pain. Thanks to CBD edibles, the non-psychoactive part of cannabis, her life will likely be extended for another 10 or more years. She sleeps great. We never would have discovered this but for just the partial relief.
Whenever there is an unjust law, such as cannabis prohibition, this goes against human nature and will be opposed, as it should be. One even has an obligation to defy it. One can make a case for regulating to a reasonable extent, and I mean very reasonable, but the author wants to put the toothpaste back in the tube and actually criminalize it!
The Soros issue is baffling, I mean the guy must have super-human powers the way he has been accused of every policy disliked by a certain party. Maybe it's all true, I don't know, but the ill effects of prohibition are far worse.
WoW.... The way you manipulate data and cite NIH, as a legitimate source is frightening a least!!! Let me ask you several questions which you obviously have not considered. First, Please explain to the audience how a law is created. Specifically as it relates to slang terms! Our laws are supposed to be made by dictionary or encyclopedia terms. Please provide me with the dictionary or encyclopedia In 1937 that lists the term "Marijuana" In my research it does NOT exist. So a law based on a slang term is NOT law. What did Thomas Jefferson say about unjust laws? Which leads to the question who's laws are you following, Man's laws or God's laws??? Genesis 1: 26-29 where God explains what our food is, "All seed bearing plants and fruit with a seed in the center I provide you for FOOD!!! Taking food and calling it a drug to increase a Criminal Justice budget is a criminal act!!! Which speaks nothing to the state of Codes and Statutes as corporation by laws and not law, or Color of Law, thus Title 18: 241 & 242.
Second, Cannabis, the Latin definition of the plant's term (marijuana is a lie and always will be) was listed in the phamacopia until 1949. Well after the 1937 Marijuana Tax Stamp Act. Please also provide your readers the process used to make a law out of a slang term. Please list all of the Banker families, involved and their government positions. You see I have conducted extensive research into Cannabis and the illegal way it was made Illegal. In the late 1930's to early 1940's an elixir of cannabis was in most of the pharmaceutical medicines in the pharmacies, or general store that had pharmacies. Please read my Substack on Cannabis.
Cannabis is treated like no other substance by the Government. Due to it's Class 1 status as a controlled substance. The Government severely restricts it's use for research. You can only research its harms. Research looking at its medicinal qualities are not "Funded" meaning you cannot obtain cannabis for research. They only allow research on possible harms. So all the research studies in the U.S. are swayed to harm. If you look to the work of Raphael Mechoulam out of Israel his research is the most complete on benefits of cannabis. He is the one who isolated the psychoactive component of Delta9 Tetrahydrocannabinol. He also named the compound our bodies make that is the cannabinoid receptor as anandamide which in Israel means Bliss.
Our bodies have an endocannabinoid system that controls all life support systems of the body and every organ of the body has cannabinoid receptors. Cannabis is the one plant with hundreds of cannabinoids, Echinacea has 2. God created our human bodies, God also created the most beneficial plant for the human body, it's called Cannabis Sativa, Indica, and Ruderalis. We can agree on one thing, cannabis should never have been made legal!!! It should remain Lawful as it's Food first, Medicine second, and a recreational substance third. Only the manipulation of God's plant by government created by man would eliminate the most beneficial plant to humans. I could go on for quite an extended time rebuffing your incorrect post. But I will stop here My diatribe has gone too long already... Please prove me wrong with independent studies from independent financial elements that don't cow down to the Government's propaganda... Peace...
Did you mean kowtow or bow down?
Cows laying down mean rain is coming…or so the farmers say.
Your rant is just that. A rant
You are correct I meant Kowtow... LOL..
Very well written, thank you!
All drugs should be legal for adults to consume if they choose. I would like to see a real accounting of the cost to society of the war on drugs. But I rarely hear about that. I daresay that it far outweighs any negative effects of drug use. Prohibition NEVER works. If people want it they are going to find a way to get it. How did that work out with alcohol? Let’s just face that reality and stop destroying lives over something that should be a personal choice. For some reason people just can’t deal with this.
I understand the libertarian impulse, but there is plenty of evidence to show that society and taxpayers bear the cost of allowing this “individual right”. If the cost could be solely borne by the user, I’d be more inclined to agree. Take SF, for instance: https://www.hoover.org/research/economics-how-san-franciscos-drug-policies-are-devastating-city
Do a thought experiment. Sometimes looking at an extreme case can clarify the situation.
What would happen if everybody used mj regularly? I mean everybody from SCOTUS, to your doctor, to the guy driving in front of you on the highway. And then there is the pilot of your flight to Hawaii, the whole National Security apparatus and the military. And the farmers, dairymen etc. If everybody just lays back and takes it as easy as they can, who do we mooch from?
Hi Lizzie that would be a disaster. How does that address the issue at hand? The war against drugs has hurt more people than drugs have. Who can prove that prohibition is better for society than freedom? You can’t because all the data is skewed by prohibition. How much money is spent fighting drug use? How many people are in prison? How many lives lost to violence? Yet people are still getting drugs. Maybe the answer is to just kill more people and put more people in jail. Yeh that will do it. Problem solved.
If everybody uses, society devolves and dies quickly; with strong prohibition, it dies more slowly. The slower option is better because it gives time for people to adapt, either genetically or behaviorally. Perhaps the best choice is for government to make organized efforts to spread the practice,less profitable and not approve or license use or distribution. Eventually, as use spreads and causes even more damage, the "responsible" people who keep society running, will lose patience at having to help support those who are not functioning at the capacity they were born with. Then things could get really ugly. Devolution on steroids, or on meth if that is a better metaphor.
This is something that has been eating at me for a while and this article was a convenient segue for my rant. I don’t think the status quo is very good. I am one who believes adults should make their own decisions and where the government should step in is really a gray area. I appreciate the author giving me an audience. And thank you Lizzie for sharing your thoughts.
I will read that later and get back to you. I have to get ready for work now. Thanks for the reply.
Thank you for reading and commenting—we appreciate the feedback/discussion
I’m back. San Francisco is pretty messed up. Your point is valid about the cost to society in general. There is certainly a lot of data that people use to support prohibition. And Soros is a nasty character who seems to be responsible for a lot of destructive policies. Here is the situation, people want to take drugs. We can let them and incur some costs or we can “try” to stop them and incur some costs. I say that if you did a true cost benefit analysis on prohibition of drugs you might find that the damage to society of “trying “ to stop people from taking drugs is greater than the damage that would come from legalization and regulation just like alcohol. The war on drugs waged by the United States has caused a lot of harm to society. We aren’t winning it and we never will, never.
If Soros planned to ruin this country, promoting drugs and promoting freeing criminals to repeat their offences he could not have come up with a better plan. Oh! WAIT ! ........
This! That's what confuses me about the reaction from others--does it not distress them to know they've been manipulated? Thanks for reading, Lizzie!
I try to avoid conspiratorial thinking... but it's hard to evade the realization that our system is set up to:
(1) make people's lives empty
(2) offer salves and distractions to help with the empty feeling (for profit)
(3) offer MORE programs and apps and subscriptions and products to address the low self-esteem and health problems created by overuse of 2, such as obesity and low T and depression, etc. (for more profit) and
(4) lock people into a dependent relationship with experts and government programs and social transfer payments
I'm not saying this is all a concerted effort. It's partly just the incentives playing out as you'd expect in a country dedicated to personal fulfillment and littered with bureaucracies and corporations trying to survive and grow.
https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/a-guide-to-treating-symptoms-of-mental-48d
Too right… morons made this decision
When listing the detrimental effects of weed, don't forget weight gain via increased consumption of junk food.
Someone please tell me why George Soros is not behind bars for crimes against America. Start with all the riots he bussed people to, including Jan.6th. His henchmen started that. The only Trump supporters who were still there were the radicals looking for a fight. I have friends who went. By the time the rioting started the contingent from Kentucky were all safely in home in their beds. Most of them have jobs and needed to get back to them. It was busloads of people who were paid rioters who led the charge on the Capitol Building and FBI members who were imbedded in the crowd new that.
We've actually heard the same thing from multiple sources, firsthand. What frustrates me about the reaction from others (not you, Rebecka) is that, even if you personally LOVE Cannabis, is it not distressing to know you've been manipulated? Thank you for reading as always, Rebecka!
I hate when I learn people have been manipulated and lied to by the people who are suppose to be looking out for them. I do not understand how people like George Soros can wield so much power over our government. The people beholden to him are just foot soldiers. They don't even realize they can be replaced.
Driving in California has gotten far worse since cannabis was legalized. Bad enough that we have so many idiots on the road as it is, now half of them are stoned. They brake for green lights and merge into freeways going 25 mph. I have a friend who’s young adult son smokes pot daily to “relax” and to help him sleep. What does a 22-year-old have to worry about so much that he needs to smoke daily? I can see in a few years how much more aggressive his personality has become, but she’s oblivious.
Exactly. Cannabis gives you the option to numb yourself to your problems rather than fix them. Thanks for reading, CeeMcG!
The only people against drugs either never did them, did them badly, or profit from the prison/police industrial complex, and this recent zeal for cannabis prohibition has the GOP/neocons fingerprints all over it. Come to think of it, perhaps you got your marching orders from the Dems who want to derail this administration? Otherwise, why spend political capital on this? Or perhaps you these war criminals need to keep the young folks agitated for the next big conflict with China, you can't have them chill.
I can't believe this has to be explained again. The costs to our society and loss of human potential from prohibition are staggering, but you brought "statistics", so I guess that makes the destruction of all our civil liberties okay. Don't bring up the fact that all tyranny has been justified in the name of "safety".
It's not surprising how this propaganda piece doesn't mention the massive costs of enforcement and incarceration, but you does consider what happens to "productivity" as a reason for running a police state. This is an attempt to quantify freedom as a cost benefit/liability tradeoff. No thanks, I'll trade a bit of laziness over no-knock raids.
You’re so far off I’m cringing. In literally every aspect of your paranoid rant.
I'm "paranoid" said the person blaming the little Jewish man. Okay, you be you, but I've said a truth that you can't refute. I've lived through all of this, from Nixon's 'War on Drugs' (yes, he started it) to Reagan's renewed vigor in cracking heads and here are with the same imbecilic words being thrown around again. You turn my stomach by your ignorance, I'm in Oregon in the heart of it all, I've lived through it all. You, Sir, are dead wrong.
🤣Oregon? That explains a lot. How’d Measure 110 work out for you folks in Oregon then? Huh? I’ll tell you. A 241% increase in accidental opiate deaths in three years since it was passed. You sir, are an idiot.
By "opiate" did you mean the Frankenstein poisons? In that case we have a problem. These are being consumed because some people, as has always been the case, will want to get 'high' or persons in serious pain will try the stuff out of desperation due to the difficulty or impossibility in accessing legitimate pain management. The system put in place may have worked great if the resources from the sale of cannabis were used for treatment as it was supposed to, but our corrupt government didn't do that, of course, and instead diverted the funds to other trash.
Oh, and thanks for the ad hominem attack, what a class act. Funny, you seem angry, I bet you are fun to live with. Maybe you need to chill with the hippy lettuce? Have a terrific day.
You’re argument makes no sense. So we are to upend society with legalization of marijuana in order to facilitate the less-than-minuscule margin of people who live with chronic pain who can’t obtain legal pain
meds? You crusaders for the marginalized people keep forgetting the rule man…majority rules. Have a baked day!
Hehe, that was funny, "Have a baked day!" because I'm not a consumer of such, don't even drink, but I do love freedom and your anti-liberty intrusion into this thread I resolutely oppose. Besides, don't you think that was much better than your previous personal attack?
Well, boss, I don't have all day to wrangle over this issue, but there is merit to your words "majority rules", which, by definition, is the worst form of tyranny meaning it's too bad if a "tiny minority", as you wrongly infer, is to be crushed, got to break a few eggs. You know, I'm getting the distinct impression that you love big state power, so there is no point in trying to convince you that big government is evil. Please enjoy your prison.
Or were family members of those ruined in mind or body by their "free choice " to do drugs.
This^. Also, not everyone is genetically identical. To say someone is weak because they are unable to quit an addictive substance is pretty cruel.
I know, tragic as it is, see rule #2 - they did them wrong, they abused or over used whatever substance that is at hand. The same logic can be applied equally for tobacco, alcohol, guns, motor vehicles, and even books. How many times through history has the establishment banned books because it can corrupt the minds of the weak?
We can not create a risk-free society without devolving into a police state. If, as the author suggests, it is due to the influence of some little man with a lot of money, then the footing of the nation was on shaky ground to begin with. The problem is a moral and spiritual one and the reason people use escape mechanisms is due to their lack of moral and spiritual discipline.
If there is a strong correlation to be made between drug abuse and the influence of outside interests such as Soros, then that happened long before he came around as the latest scapegoat for what ails us. The Vietnam war was the tipping point due to the excesses of the war machine being exposed. An immoral and illegitimate government combined with the Kennedy assassination broke the spirit of America and it has been sliding backwards ever since. We can't blame substances, we need to blame ourselves.
Given enough time, those morally or generically immune to drugs will be the survivors. Will our Republic survive?
I think that those who are morally immune will flourish faster than others will develop genetic immunity.
A new Puritan age could develop where drug use is not the only behavior condemned.