Joe Biden and his wayward son both belong in jail. Treason comes to mind. We won't even talk about the shady business deals or the selling of state secrets. They can take the Clintons and Obamas with them.
Agreed. And I hope the American people and Media Industrial Complex don't give the Democrats a pass after their denial of Biden's obvious corruption and even more obvious mental decline. It's on all of them.
Is there any chance that Hunter might still be charged for a federal crime during the subject period and when the defense claims presidential pardon, that pardon is itself challenged as being invalid due to its vagueness? It would certainly wend its way up to the SCOTUS in short order, and then…who knows what might happen.
"1) Fani Willis was just disqualified, and her case was taken away from her because she was blatantly corrupt.
2) The Alvin Bragg case is a total joke. Every penny of the loan was paid back with interest. The lender is eager to do more business with Trump. Where is the crime?
3) NY state changed the law specifically to go after Trump in the E Jean Carrol case. Cooked again.
4) Mir a Lago SWAT team pre-dawn raid with loaded weapons. That is full banana republic tyranny.
All of this is lawfare-weaponizing the Justice department to go after your political opposition. None of these cases were legitimate. Read the facts, not MSNBC, WaPo, NYT."
I thought us Brits could be eccentric, but Joe Biden has taken insanity to a new level. Anybody who thinks a blanket pardon could be justified needs their head examined. I daresay Democrats think it makes sense but their brains have been rotted away by the vaccines.
1. I don't think it would be to difficult to show that Joe was non mentis compos, thereby annulling anything he signed.
2. We still don't know who had been running the USA during his term and if he wasn't the acting president, then all documents should be null and void, and whoever assumed his role should be held accountable. Treason?
You lost me where I stopped reading after this beauty: "to unfairly investigate, prosecute, and convict Donald Trump absent any legal basis for doing so." Really nauseating.
1) Fani Willis was just disqualified, and her case was taken away from her because she was blatantly corrupt.
2) The Alvin Bragg case is a total joke. Every penny of the loan was paid back with interest. The lender is eager to do more business with Trump. Where is the crime?
3) NY state changed the law specifically to go after Trump in the E Jean Carrol case. Cooked again.
4) Mir a Lago SWAT team pre-dawn raid with loadef weapons. That is full banana republic tyranny.
All of this is lawfare-weaponizing the Justice department to go after your political opposition. None of these cases was legitimate. Read the facts, not MSNBC, WaPo, NYT.
No, what is nauseating is the unbelievable stupidity of people who believe that Trump's convictions were legitimate. Of course, Democrats are all fascists and/or lunatics, so I guess it's not really surprising. People should be ashamed for supporting such a party of immoral losers. Do you think killing innocent babies in the womb is a great thing too?
There is a secondary right that through legal reasoning and practice (and endless courtroom television shows) is understood by the plebian masses: the prohibition of questioning a witness on why he is refusing to answer the question. Does this right also vanish?
I think what you’re referring to is that a jury is not allowed to draw a negative inference about why a person had chosen to plead the 5th and not answer the question. Meaning, if a person is asked “were you at the scene of the crime?” and that person asserts the 5th amendment instead of answering, the jury will be instructed NOT to assume that his decision not to answer is because he was at the crime scene. This protection against the negative inference extends to all criminal matters, state and federal. So, if Hunter appropriately pleads the 5th because he is asked something that could incriminate him under State law, no negative inference should be drawn that he did indeed do something incriminating under state law.
END SWATTING IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THE CORRUPT CRIMINAL LEADERS, DAs, JUDGES, LAWYERS MEDIA WHO ENGAGE IN VIOLENT CRIMES, RAPES, SASDISTIC EVIL CRIMES FOR BRIBES USING TAX DOLLARS WHILE THE US DOJ, FBI, DEPT. OF EDUCATION, WITH STATE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND GOVERNMENTS AIDING AND COLLUDING VIOLENT EVIL CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE, HOMEINVASIONS, EXTORTION, PUBLICLY FINANCED INVENTED SMEAR CAMPAIGNS WITH MEDIA AND EVIL CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA OVER ETHICS, INTEGRITY, RULE OF LAW, JUSTICE, LIFE & JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES.
NC's "Culture of Corruption" from Coast to Raleigh to D.C. Damns Asheville Flood Victims.
After decades of embezzlement, bribery, rapes, lynching's, child sexual and physical abuse in public schools. and political violence and terrorism by N.C. judicial, law enforcement & government officials, aided by DOJ, FBI, other Federal Agencies & officials.
Sexual abuse of children, violence toward political “threats” to corrupt NC officials, aid to these crimes by NC & Federal government, judicial, law enforcement, “trusted” institutions, media...the traumatized victims and grieving families DO NOT MATTER in NC.
District Attorney Office's used for rape, theft of taxpayer funds, child abuse and sadistic violence are NC's "Culture of Corruption," according to the FBI.
This is the same FBI that has and continues to aid and collude in criminal misconduct "Under color of law," subverting with violence representative democracy, Rule of Law, Constitutional & civil rights, due process, whistleblower protections, protection of minors from abuse & sexual violence trauma, engaging in sadistic brutality, torture, deprivation of basic rights, and deliberate, dehumanizing torment of crime victims (including minors).
Extensive undeniable evidence illustrates US DOJ, FBI, US Attorney for Eastern NC, the corrupt son of a corrupt Governor appointed by a President who LOVES consequence-free Corrupt Political Family Criminality, NC Attorney (soon to be Governor) General Josh Stein & predecessor child rape & DA rapist abettor Gov. Roy Cooper.
The FBI and DOJ along with Congress, State and Local officials, government leaders & personnel in violation of the law and public trust, and bribed media paid with taxpayer dollars to invent purely fictional stories intended to destroy & discredit any “threat” to NC’s pervasive, sadistic, deviant “Culture of Corruption,” together (Fed, State & Local).
The FBI aggressively, criminally, utilizes violence, torture and the corrupt, broken judicial system as evil as the FBI, and officials who are responsible for such evil relish subverting the Rule of Law, legal procedures & Due Process, undermining local democratic government for the corrupt allies of these CORRUPT institutions, and providing for embezzlement of public funds for personal theft, and aiding armed violence, brutality, extortion, retaliation, violent, horrific, persistent, criminal, sinister acts resulting in death, or worse, and subjecting innocent victims to a fate worse than death.
Followed by life-ruining attacks on families, businesses, and reputations, using bribery & aid of media, law enforcement, clergy, both major political parties and officials to torture, brutalize, and compel under penalty of death by armed deputies operating as an armed hit squad under the DA and Sheriff.
This pattern has been repeated for decades, but none of the smeared victims has ever committed any crimes prior to or after this collusion to destroy any opponent to corruption and proponent of democracy, justice, law-and-order & public service by the US DOJ and its FBI and relevant divisions in violation of its mission and claimed purpose.
Evidence provided upon request and the US DOJ, FBI & corrupt Biden-Harris appointed US Attorney for Eastern District North Carolina.
immunity is an exemption from prosecution while pardon is an order that releases a convicted criminal without further punishment, prevents future punishment, or (in some jurisdictions) removes an offence from a person's criminal record, as if it had never been committed.
As nouns the difference between immunity and pardonis that immunity is the state of being insusceptible to something; notably while pardon is forgiveness for an offence.
As a verb pardon isto forgive.
As an interjection pardon isOften used when someone does not understand what another person says.
immunity
English
Noun
(uncountable) The state of being insusceptible to something; notably:
# (medicine) Fully protective resistance against infection.
Some people have better immunity to diseases than others.
# (law) An exemption from specified duties, such as payments or services.
Feudal privileges often included tax and other immunities .
# (law) An exemption from prosecution.
The prosecutor offered the lieutenant immunity for all the crimes he would testify having known to be planned by the elusive drug baron.
# (in games and competitions) An exemption given to a player from losing or being withdrawn from play.
After winning the last round the player was granted immunity which allowed him to stay in the game even after receiving the least amount of points.
* exemption * free pass * get out of jail free card
pardon
English
Noun
(en noun)
Forgiveness for an offence.
* 1748 : Samuel Richardson, Clarissa
a step, that could not be taken with the least hope of ever obtaining pardon from or reconciliation with any of my friends;
(legal) An order that releases a convicted criminal without further punishment, prevents future punishment, or (in some jurisdictions) removes an offence from a person's criminal record, as if it had never been committed.
* 1974 : President Gerald Ford, Proclamation 4311
I... have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States ...
Derived terms
* I beg your pardon
Verb
(en verb)
To forgive.
* 1599 : (William Shakespeare),
O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, / That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
* 1815 : (Jane Austen), (Emma)
I hope you will not find he has outstepped the truth more than may be pardoned , in consideration of the motive.
*, title=(The Celebrity), chapter=1 , passage=In the old days, to my commonplace and unobserving mind, he gave no evidences of genius whatsoever. He never read me any of his manuscripts, […], and therefore my lack of detection of his promise may in some degree be pardoned .}}
To refrain from exacting as a penalty.
* Shakespeare
I pardon thee thy life before thou ask it.
(legal) To grant an official pardon for a crime; unguilt.
* 1900', , ' (The House Behind the Cedars) , Chapter I,
The murderer, he recalled, had been tried and sentenced to imprisonment for life, but was pardoned by a merciful governor after serving a year of his sentence.
Derived terms
* pardonable * pardoner * pardon me * pardon my French * unpardonable
Interjection
Pardon? , What did you say?, Can you say that again?
I would go further and say that applying this theory to all the pardoned of the past two days would at worse case provide the needed transparency for all to move on, to also put in the necessary protections in place, needed to prevent these actions in the future, or to remove the obstacles for addressing these matters more expediently in the future. On the other side of this, any who refuse to come clean would enable us to gain the equally desirable relief of seeing them punished for the new crime of contempt of Congress. Here’s hoping we live to see such redemption whether they come clean (and become social pariahs) or not (and become inmates). As far as I see it, taking on Hunter and his merry band of pardonees on, is a win-win situation for the American public.
Good analysis of how Hunter’s pardon could backfire. I think Joe knows this makes the Democrats look bad and he just doesn’t care anymore
Thanks Ange! Agreed--we appreciate you taking a look!
Joe Biden and his wayward son both belong in jail. Treason comes to mind. We won't even talk about the shady business deals or the selling of state secrets. They can take the Clintons and Obamas with them.
Agreed. And I hope the American people and Media Industrial Complex don't give the Democrats a pass after their denial of Biden's obvious corruption and even more obvious mental decline. It's on all of them.
He should have been removed from office when he stepped out of the presidential election. Then this pardon would never have happened.
He should not have been in office in the first place. Still it showa up the very deep corruption.
Is there any chance that Hunter might still be charged for a federal crime during the subject period and when the defense claims presidential pardon, that pardon is itself challenged as being invalid due to its vagueness? It would certainly wend its way up to the SCOTUS in short order, and then…who knows what might happen.
Ditto:
"1) Fani Willis was just disqualified, and her case was taken away from her because she was blatantly corrupt.
2) The Alvin Bragg case is a total joke. Every penny of the loan was paid back with interest. The lender is eager to do more business with Trump. Where is the crime?
3) NY state changed the law specifically to go after Trump in the E Jean Carrol case. Cooked again.
4) Mir a Lago SWAT team pre-dawn raid with loaded weapons. That is full banana republic tyranny.
All of this is lawfare-weaponizing the Justice department to go after your political opposition. None of these cases were legitimate. Read the facts, not MSNBC, WaPo, NYT."
I thought us Brits could be eccentric, but Joe Biden has taken insanity to a new level. Anybody who thinks a blanket pardon could be justified needs their head examined. I daresay Democrats think it makes sense but their brains have been rotted away by the vaccines.
1. I don't think it would be to difficult to show that Joe was non mentis compos, thereby annulling anything he signed.
2. We still don't know who had been running the USA during his term and if he wasn't the acting president, then all documents should be null and void, and whoever assumed his role should be held accountable. Treason?
You lost me where I stopped reading after this beauty: "to unfairly investigate, prosecute, and convict Donald Trump absent any legal basis for doing so." Really nauseating.
1) Fani Willis was just disqualified, and her case was taken away from her because she was blatantly corrupt.
2) The Alvin Bragg case is a total joke. Every penny of the loan was paid back with interest. The lender is eager to do more business with Trump. Where is the crime?
3) NY state changed the law specifically to go after Trump in the E Jean Carrol case. Cooked again.
4) Mir a Lago SWAT team pre-dawn raid with loadef weapons. That is full banana republic tyranny.
All of this is lawfare-weaponizing the Justice department to go after your political opposition. None of these cases was legitimate. Read the facts, not MSNBC, WaPo, NYT.
No, what is nauseating is the unbelievable stupidity of people who believe that Trump's convictions were legitimate. Of course, Democrats are all fascists and/or lunatics, so I guess it's not really surprising. People should be ashamed for supporting such a party of immoral losers. Do you think killing innocent babies in the womb is a great thing too?
Democrats have mental health issues: https://news.gallup.com/poll/102943/republicans-report-much-better-mental-health-than-others.aspx
Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic
https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/
Liberals more likely to have a mental health condition
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely-have-mental-health-cond/
Over 40% of left leaning Democrats report mental health issues:https://www.eutimes.net/2020/02/liberalism-is-a-mental-disorder-akin-to-schizophrenia-according-to-new-study/
Mental illness prevalent in the left: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339541044_Mental_illness_and_the_left
Democrats have more mental disorders: https://thinkamericana.com/scientific-evidence-study-proves-liberals-have-more-mental-disorders-than-others/
Most criminals identify as Democrats by a ratio of 5 to 1: https://www.mic.com/articles/78013/most-convicts-vote-democrat-study-shows
Science proves liberals have far more mental illness issues: https://freedomheadlines.com/freedom-wire/scientific-proof-study-finds-more-liberals-have-more-mental-disorders/
Conservatives have healthier mental traits like personal responsibility and conscientiousness than liberals. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/201902/are-conservatives-healthier-liberals
Democrat fascists are so insane that they want to take children from parents if not vaccinated: https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/01/18/nearly-a-third-of-democrats-support-unvaccinated-losing-custody-of-kids/
There is a secondary right that through legal reasoning and practice (and endless courtroom television shows) is understood by the plebian masses: the prohibition of questioning a witness on why he is refusing to answer the question. Does this right also vanish?
I think what you’re referring to is that a jury is not allowed to draw a negative inference about why a person had chosen to plead the 5th and not answer the question. Meaning, if a person is asked “were you at the scene of the crime?” and that person asserts the 5th amendment instead of answering, the jury will be instructed NOT to assume that his decision not to answer is because he was at the crime scene. This protection against the negative inference extends to all criminal matters, state and federal. So, if Hunter appropriately pleads the 5th because he is asked something that could incriminate him under State law, no negative inference should be drawn that he did indeed do something incriminating under state law.
https://justice4all.substack.com/p/federal-state-officials-aiding-criminal-662
END SWATTING IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THE CORRUPT CRIMINAL LEADERS, DAs, JUDGES, LAWYERS MEDIA WHO ENGAGE IN VIOLENT CRIMES, RAPES, SASDISTIC EVIL CRIMES FOR BRIBES USING TAX DOLLARS WHILE THE US DOJ, FBI, DEPT. OF EDUCATION, WITH STATE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND GOVERNMENTS AIDING AND COLLUDING VIOLENT EVIL CRIMES, CHILD ABUSE, HOMEINVASIONS, EXTORTION, PUBLICLY FINANCED INVENTED SMEAR CAMPAIGNS WITH MEDIA AND EVIL CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA OVER ETHICS, INTEGRITY, RULE OF LAW, JUSTICE, LIFE & JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES.
NC's "Culture of Corruption" from Coast to Raleigh to D.C. Damns Asheville Flood Victims.
https://justice4all.substack.com/p/reform-or-replace-the-us-dept-of-3df?r=o62no&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
After decades of embezzlement, bribery, rapes, lynching's, child sexual and physical abuse in public schools. and political violence and terrorism by N.C. judicial, law enforcement & government officials, aided by DOJ, FBI, other Federal Agencies & officials.
https://justice4all.substack.com/p/federal-state-officials-aiding-criminal?r=o62no&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&fbclid=IwAR3IocGge8vnFE-QLiYE27mxzMR6NWujzMiZsZB9E8GuZYoJpmMR-5a-sZk
Sexual abuse of children, violence toward political “threats” to corrupt NC officials, aid to these crimes by NC & Federal government, judicial, law enforcement, “trusted” institutions, media...the traumatized victims and grieving families DO NOT MATTER in NC.
District Attorney Office's used for rape, theft of taxpayer funds, child abuse and sadistic violence are NC's "Culture of Corruption," according to the FBI.
This is the same FBI that has and continues to aid and collude in criminal misconduct "Under color of law," subverting with violence representative democracy, Rule of Law, Constitutional & civil rights, due process, whistleblower protections, protection of minors from abuse & sexual violence trauma, engaging in sadistic brutality, torture, deprivation of basic rights, and deliberate, dehumanizing torment of crime victims (including minors).
Extensive undeniable evidence illustrates US DOJ, FBI, US Attorney for Eastern NC, the corrupt son of a corrupt Governor appointed by a President who LOVES consequence-free Corrupt Political Family Criminality, NC Attorney (soon to be Governor) General Josh Stein & predecessor child rape & DA rapist abettor Gov. Roy Cooper.
The FBI and DOJ along with Congress, State and Local officials, government leaders & personnel in violation of the law and public trust, and bribed media paid with taxpayer dollars to invent purely fictional stories intended to destroy & discredit any “threat” to NC’s pervasive, sadistic, deviant “Culture of Corruption,” together (Fed, State & Local).
The FBI aggressively, criminally, utilizes violence, torture and the corrupt, broken judicial system as evil as the FBI, and officials who are responsible for such evil relish subverting the Rule of Law, legal procedures & Due Process, undermining local democratic government for the corrupt allies of these CORRUPT institutions, and providing for embezzlement of public funds for personal theft, and aiding armed violence, brutality, extortion, retaliation, violent, horrific, persistent, criminal, sinister acts resulting in death, or worse, and subjecting innocent victims to a fate worse than death.
Followed by life-ruining attacks on families, businesses, and reputations, using bribery & aid of media, law enforcement, clergy, both major political parties and officials to torture, brutalize, and compel under penalty of death by armed deputies operating as an armed hit squad under the DA and Sheriff.
This pattern has been repeated for decades, but none of the smeared victims has ever committed any crimes prior to or after this collusion to destroy any opponent to corruption and proponent of democracy, justice, law-and-order & public service by the US DOJ and its FBI and relevant divisions in violation of its mission and claimed purpose.
Evidence provided upon request and the US DOJ, FBI & corrupt Biden-Harris appointed US Attorney for Eastern District North Carolina.
https://justice4all.substack.com/p/federal-state-officials-aiding-criminal-662
https://justice4all.substack.com/p/cape-fear-the-corruption-and-political?r=o62no&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Kinda moot now though, since Creepy Joe pardoned everyone but himself. Guess that was just a bit too far for him. Well, that and executive privilege.
immunity is an exemption from prosecution while pardon is an order that releases a convicted criminal without further punishment, prevents future punishment, or (in some jurisdictions) removes an offence from a person's criminal record, as if it had never been committed.
As nouns the difference between immunity and pardonis that immunity is the state of being insusceptible to something; notably while pardon is forgiveness for an offence.
As a verb pardon isto forgive.
As an interjection pardon isOften used when someone does not understand what another person says.
immunity
English
Noun
(uncountable) The state of being insusceptible to something; notably:
# (medicine) Fully protective resistance against infection.
Some people have better immunity to diseases than others.
# (law) An exemption from specified duties, such as payments or services.
Feudal privileges often included tax and other immunities .
# (law) An exemption from prosecution.
The prosecutor offered the lieutenant immunity for all the crimes he would testify having known to be planned by the elusive drug baron.
# (in games and competitions) An exemption given to a player from losing or being withdrawn from play.
After winning the last round the player was granted immunity which allowed him to stay in the game even after receiving the least amount of points.
(countable) A resistance to a specific thing.
Related terms
* immunize * immuno- * immunology * diplomatic immunity
Synonyms
* exemption * free pass * get out of jail free card
pardon
English
Noun
(en noun)
Forgiveness for an offence.
* 1748 : Samuel Richardson, Clarissa
a step, that could not be taken with the least hope of ever obtaining pardon from or reconciliation with any of my friends;
(legal) An order that releases a convicted criminal without further punishment, prevents future punishment, or (in some jurisdictions) removes an offence from a person's criminal record, as if it had never been committed.
* 1974 : President Gerald Ford, Proclamation 4311
I... have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States ...
Derived terms
* I beg your pardon
Verb
(en verb)
To forgive.
* 1599 : (William Shakespeare),
O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, / That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
* 1815 : (Jane Austen), (Emma)
I hope you will not find he has outstepped the truth more than may be pardoned , in consideration of the motive.
*, title=(The Celebrity), chapter=1 , passage=In the old days, to my commonplace and unobserving mind, he gave no evidences of genius whatsoever. He never read me any of his manuscripts, […], and therefore my lack of detection of his promise may in some degree be pardoned .}}
To refrain from exacting as a penalty.
* Shakespeare
I pardon thee thy life before thou ask it.
(legal) To grant an official pardon for a crime; unguilt.
* 1900', , ' (The House Behind the Cedars) , Chapter I,
The murderer, he recalled, had been tried and sentenced to imprisonment for life, but was pardoned by a merciful governor after serving a year of his sentence.
Derived terms
* pardonable * pardoner * pardon me * pardon my French * unpardonable
Interjection
Pardon? , What did you say?, Can you say that again?
I would go further and say that applying this theory to all the pardoned of the past two days would at worse case provide the needed transparency for all to move on, to also put in the necessary protections in place, needed to prevent these actions in the future, or to remove the obstacles for addressing these matters more expediently in the future. On the other side of this, any who refuse to come clean would enable us to gain the equally desirable relief of seeing them punished for the new crime of contempt of Congress. Here’s hoping we live to see such redemption whether they come clean (and become social pariahs) or not (and become inmates). As far as I see it, taking on Hunter and his merry band of pardonees on, is a win-win situation for the American public.